Japan

[KC]

really. honestly.
guys, there is nothing redeeming about japanese or japan and it's culture. it's a racist group of people. you go there, and i bet you a thousand bucks you'll get dirty looks, or be disallowed into certain areas, or be discriminated against. It doesn't matter what race you are, if you're american, you're rosa parks. If you're a foreigner and you're a whitey, hey sucks to be you "gaijin". The japanese culture is backwards, and the racism and injustice so ingrained into it, theres no way out.
Please take some time and read about the rape of nanking.
Nanking Massacre - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Check that ****. 500,000 people dead. thats in one ****ing incident.
Babies getting thrown in the air and caught on bayonets? That is some really ****ing ****ed up ****. like holy ****ing ****.

Take some time, look up the relations of japan with other asian countries. the answer is NOT ****ING GOOD. theres a goddamn reason for it. please, look that **** up.

And even onto the language, it's from the ****ing moon. You could take ten years of college level japanese, and you'd only be at the level of a four year old in terms of language usage and literacy. The grammar is so **** backwards and the usage of symbols so complicated, that it's like trying to program an entire operating system using only ones and zeroes. It's antequated and useless.

There are no redeeming aspects to japanese language use compared to latin based languages, and japanese culture is revolting and it's people disgust me.

Quoted from another thread.

[Gunpla God]

dear me someone certainly has issues but seriously I have afriend who is Japanese and he doesnt shoot me dirty looks like Im scum.

and those people that do and wont let you into the onsen one word:conservatives its just like the USA imagine that

[Kioswan]

Bah, everyone knows that the nanking massacre is just a lie made up by the U.S. during war time to serve as propaganda against the Japanese. It's just being used these days for all the usual reasons people won't let old **** go.
Also everyone does that kind of stuff during war time for good reasons. BEING THAT THEY WANT TO, AND WON'T GET A CHANCE OUTSIDE OF IT TO BRUTALLY HARM INNOCENT PEOPLE. Everyone sorta dreams about it at one point or another, and hell; if you raise a kid to be that way, then they will be. I've seen American troops in Iraq taunting kids with bottles of water, riding on the backs of the trucks as the kids chase them begging for some; while the troops are there just laughing their asses off.

Japanese is a language Isolate, the only ones actually being related to it are stuff like Okinawan, and other islands Japan has conquered. Also Japanese isn't that hard to follow, yeesh, it's all particles and SOV. The only reason you'd be so crappy from 10 years of college in ANY language would be passing with the lowest possible scores and whatnot.
On a some what funny note, the language is actually fairly easy to pronounce, but that isn't helped by their 6000 character kanji writing system.

The point is, Japan isn't really all that different from a lot of other countries. As for what they are to the western powers? Probably just some giant buffer point for jumping into enemy territory. (China, North Korea, Russia.) You know, sorta like Israel is for the middle east.

[Fuzileer]

About that massacre thing - think of how many people the Nazis killed.
Few know that Stalin killed more than Hitler dead.
The crusades?
There are so many more massacres that are not noticed but have resulted in thousands of death.

[LordOkageSpencer]

true. Take it from a person who was there a few years after the war ended in Russia. It was heck, and it was because the Russian government was way over the top with their pride. I saw a place where they did a mass attack, and shot their retreating soliders.....more soliders died that way then by enemy fire.

[Gunpla God]

and besides depending on what youre goal is such occurences can be a good thing say if you want to break the morale of a people.

[Wulf Dagov]

Ha.

You suck.

This thread sucks.

Your quote sucks.

A joke? Fine.

But not here.

[Gunpla God]

and youre on an anime forum.

[Wulf Dagov]

That too.

[Okazaki Tomoya]

true. Take it from a person who was there a few years after the war ended in Russia. It was heck, and it was because the Russian government was way over the top with their pride. I saw a place where they did a mass attack, and shot their retreating soliders.....more soliders died that way then by enemy fire.

What in bloody hell are you talking about?




Yes, in Japan you will ge todd looks. Younger Japanese would be less inclinded to do so than their elders, and city folk who are used to foreign tourists and investors will treat them much more kindly than those in less traveled areas. A knowledge of Japanese culture would be helpful, as well as customs and whatnot. I highly recommend the Culture Shock series of books, as they happen to cover many aspects of daily dealings with Japanese people.

[Your God]

Okay, I'll just throw in my two cents.

First of all Nanking Massacre - DID happen. Contrary to bias belief. In fact Japan committed a long list of war crimes that'd make Nanking look like a misdemeanor. And what Fuzileer said about the Nazis, don't forget in WWII Germany and Japan were allies. And their actions were every bit as brutal as the Nazis, they merely lacked the numbers.

Human Experimentation (Look up Unit 731)
Comfort Women (I.E. Forced Prostitution)
Cannibalism
Unnecessary Starvation

But with that said, no country is without blood on its hands. Our country has committed acts that I personally disapprove of during that same war. And you can hardly condemn the younger generations for what happened before they were born.

I don't believe it's fair or rational to judge an entire country and its people based on the actions of its government alone. A government that isn't even in practice anymore, granted because we forced them to change but still, it's not in practice.

And as for the Japanese people who hate foreigners, we have plenty of people like that here, they're everywhere. Hell, I'd be willing to bet that if I went to England, and was open about my nationality, people wouldn't take too kindly to me.

Not sure on what to say about the language, never really had a chance to try and learn it.

[Kioswan]

I still don't believe in the Nanking massacre, mainly because out of all the worse **** Japan did; everyone has chosen to sit around birching about this one for 35 years.
I know they did crap a lot worse than this, so it's just really off that they would choose this specific event to crap themselves over.

They did do stuff like line up.. ahh forget it. This is all SSF anyway.

[Molon_UK]

Japan on the whole is not kind to foreigners, but that's more to do with the laws there and not the people, though there are certain groups of people there (like anywhere) that are racist.

I was born there, and when my parents died I was put into an orphanage where I was singled out due to being mixed race, and so I was moved to England. I went back to Japan (briefly) in December 2006, and was not treated badly at all.

They are a very xenophobic country on the whole though, and anyone who wants to live there should expect to have to put up with odd looks and being treated differently.

[Rasberry]

Moved to a more serious subforum, the SSF rules now apply to this thread!

[Mr.Anderson]

Though I admit that the character reading and all is really though (I can't do it) but in a small amount of time I've been able to learn a respectable amount of Japanese words and can have (very?) small talk with a Japanese person (even if my pronounciation is a bit off and not totally gramatically perfect). Heck I know more about Japanese grammer then of my own language or English (maybe even together).

I guess that, with seeing Asian, American, all kinds of European and English people at every corner of the street I don't look so odd against being the odd one out.

And of course there's their culture, there are certain things you just have to know (or would be really helpfull). Knowing how to adress different people is defenitly a must as with customs. The all known 'itadakimasu' before eating and those simple things show good manner when you do it, or mark you for anti social for not doing so (don't trust me on the anti social thing here ).

[☼Pepe☼]

*ehem*
Cultural Relativity.
All cultures are different in their own way, and there is no universal standard to judge a culture as either socially immoral or socially moral.

No culture is truly better than another.

And we all have the freedom to choose what culture is best for us...

[Your God]

^ Simple yet undeniably true.

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I still don't believe in the Nanking massacre, mainly because out of all the worse **** Japan did; everyone has chosen to sit around birching about this one for 35 years.
I know they did crap a lot worse than this, so it's just really off that they would choose this specific event to crap themselves over.

They did do stuff like line up.. ahh forget it. This is all SSF anyway.

You have a point there. But I don't think it was the US trying to justify their fight against Japan. We had all the justification we needed when they bombed Pearl Harbor.

[Grey Fox]

*ehem*
Cultural Relativity.
All cultures are different in their own way, and there is no universal standard to judge a culture as either socially immoral or socially moral.

No culture is truly better than another.

And we all have the freedom to choose what culture is best for us...

I agree with Pepe.
Having Been Japan for numerous weeks and living in england as a half chinese, i receive racist comments and hair-pulling and insulting comments in england and not at all in japan so that tells you something, oh and it's cleaner too.
Secondly blah blah blah about the war. In war nothing is restricted and everything is permitted.

IF you win the war, nobody cares.
If you lose the war, you'll never hear the end of it.

So the summarize:

Don't bother trying to disuade me from what i want, or tell me how you think things, should happen.
Because you're not me.

[Sakurazaki]

Honestly I don't shoot people looks. Yes, I'm JP. I don't mind if you are foreign or not. -_-' So I can't help but say that KC's quote....was really...just ugh. It disgusts me the way the person who said it put it.

I go to a international school, and trust me, no one says anything racist there. In fact, there's quite a few people that I'm friends with who are not Japanese, and I don't treat them any different because of their race. I say if you are going to comment about it, don't accuse people as a whole, please. ^.^'

[Mr.Anderson]

I'd like to, but I've got nothing to add anymore. It's exactly as everyone says. ( I am of course refering to the people saying that it's no big deal )