Results 1 to 20 of 73
Thread: Japan
Hybrid View
-
5 Mar 2008, 4:53 pm #1
Japan
Originally Posted by KC
-
5 Mar 2008, 4:59 pm #2
dear me someone certainly has issues but seriously I have afriend who is Japanese and he doesnt shoot me dirty looks like Im scum.
and those people that do and wont let you into the onsen one word:conservatives its just like the USA imagine thatbadass nun......what more can you want?
-
5 Mar 2008, 5:11 pm #3
- Join Date
- March 2007
- Location
- Hamsterdam (Dubai)
- Posts
- 2,403
- Points
- 4,819.37
Bah, everyone knows that the nanking massacre is just a lie made up by the U.S. during war time to serve as propaganda against the Japanese. It's just being used these days for all the usual reasons people won't let old **** go.
Also everyone does that kind of stuff during war time for good reasons. BEING THAT THEY WANT TO, AND WON'T GET A CHANCE OUTSIDE OF IT TO BRUTALLY HARM INNOCENT PEOPLE. Everyone sorta dreams about it at one point or another, and hell; if you raise a kid to be that way, then they will be. I've seen American troops in Iraq taunting kids with bottles of water, riding on the backs of the trucks as the kids chase them begging for some; while the troops are there just laughing their asses off.
Japanese is a language Isolate, the only ones actually being related to it are stuff like Okinawan, and other islands Japan has conquered. Also Japanese isn't that hard to follow, yeesh, it's all particles and SOV. The only reason you'd be so crappy from 10 years of college in ANY language would be passing with the lowest possible scores and whatnot.
On a some what funny note, the language is actually fairly easy to pronounce, but that isn't helped by their 6000 character kanji writing system.
The point is, Japan isn't really all that different from a lot of other countries. As for what they are to the western powers? Probably just some giant buffer point for jumping into enemy territory. (China, North Korea, Russia.) You know, sorta like Israel is for the middle east.
-
5 Mar 2008, 5:30 pm #4
About that massacre thing - think of how many people the Nazis killed.
Few know that Stalin killed more than Hitler dead.
The crusades?
There are so many more massacres that are not noticed but have resulted in thousands of death.Has RP'd as....
- Fuzileer
- Dave
- Hilt
- Carter Reed
-
11 Mar 2008, 9:56 pm #5
It's kinda hard to let go of tens of thousands of innocent civilian deaths.
And it's not propaganda, it is fact.
Or would you rather believe all those civilians just dropped dead of their own accord, for entirely unrelated reasons, and buried themselves?
I fail to see how a reasonable human being can, after a review of the evidence at hand, dismiss the many thousands of war crimes against civilians as merely "US propaganda made up against the Japanese", especially as there were eye witnesses. There is just so much evidence backing it up.
Go here and give it a look through. Tell me what you think. Japanese Army's Atrocities -- Nanjing Massacre
Look at the photos. Then, if you can, tell me nothing happened.
It is rather like dismissing the Holocaust as US propaganda.
Contrary to your beliefs, the Nanjing Massacre isn't the only war crime people harp on. it is just the one you hear about.
A little fact checking will go a long way in removing your ignorance of the situation at hand.
Now keep in mind I'm being polite here, as I see that you are ignorant, not and idiot. Ignorant people don't know better. Idiots see the evidence and ignore it to preserve their worldview.
I hope I am right in judging your ignorant, and not an idiot.Last edited by Solo; 11 Mar 2008 at 11:03 pm.
The Terran Marine Corps- Your first, last, and only Zerg stompin' line of defense.
-
12 Mar 2008, 1:53 pm #6
And now for something completely different:
People die. Loads of people die.
Murder, age, sickness accidents, war, everyone dies, there are no exceptions no matter who or what you are, when or where.
War hides many killings of non-combatants and is one life's few certainties, as long as there are more than 1 kind of people there will be conflicts, murders and killing. And there is no way to stop the fact that it did, does and will happen.
It's just surprising that people can run around with meager knowledge seeing only a small part of the picture acting like their justice is absolute, when there is nothing absolute. So why should one killing, one act, one crime be focused upon? there are more people dead throughout the last century than the current world population. If anyone wants anything they should forget these things and move on rather than stand still swinging blind punches at each other. If you want to hate something go ahead it only strengthens the chains of hate and perpetuates the cycle you lock yourself in. If you forget the loss, the death and the life and allow selfish attachments to flow from your life, perhaps you can see clearly. It seems to me that in this age and in this world that would be a fine accomplishment to achieve before you die.
-
13 Mar 2008, 12:42 am #7
I wasn't going to post in this thread on the grounds of watching it, but you sir are an idiot.
Nanjing was not the only atrocity comitted by the japanese. There were loads of them in WW2, think bataan if you need another one. And this isn't just one killing. this is almost a million dead. Try to think that. you're one person. you probably live in a little town of around ten thousand. try to imagine your town gone. try to imagine more than that. try to imagine those ten thousand times X people. Thats not exactly something small, is it sherlock.
Forgive and forget is fine when somebody hits you in the arm.
Not when nearly 1 million die.
-
13 Mar 2008, 1:07 am #8
everyone wants to b**** about Nanking and the Holocaust but what about the Trail of Tears ? what about when Richard the Lion hearted massacred hundreds of Men Women and children POWs because he was tired of waiting for a trade? I pressed my roommate about it and his response was ultimately "it was in the nineteen hundreds people are more civilized" like time somehow makes it bad . also this "never forget Nanking "thing is a load of crap people are brainwashed to keep grudges even though they never ex. it
badass nun......what more can you want?
-
5 Mar 2008, 5:38 pm #9
true. Take it from a person who was there a few years after the war ended in Russia. It was heck, and it was because the Russian government was way over the top with their pride. I saw a place where they did a mass attack, and shot their retreating soliders.....more soliders died that way then by enemy fire.
-
5 Mar 2008, 5:48 pm #10
and besides depending on what youre goal is such occurences can be a good thing say if you want to break the morale of a people.
badass nun......what more can you want?
-
5 Mar 2008, 8:46 pm #11
- Join Date
- April 2007
- Location
- Tsienville, Europa
- Posts
- 1,148
- Points
- 11,438.79
What in bloody hell are you talking about?
Yes, in Japan you will ge todd looks. Younger Japanese would be less inclinded to do so than their elders, and city folk who are used to foreign tourists and investors will treat them much more kindly than those in less traveled areas. A knowledge of Japanese culture would be helpful, as well as customs and whatnot. I highly recommend the Culture Shock series of books, as they happen to cover many aspects of daily dealings with Japanese people.
Okazaki Tomoya - AIVAS member no. 3
Strike Witch: Jean Elysse Blackburn
Liberion Navy Strike Witch
Join the Animeb Independent Volunteer Aerial Strikeforce today!
(Click on Picture)
The internet. A US DoD project meant to share defense information during the Cold War. Now populated by thinkers and idiots, who they are depends on your own views and beliefs.
-Okazaki Tomoya
-
6 Mar 2008, 12:07 am #12
- Join Date
- March 2006
- Location
- In your nightmares
- Posts
- 1,643
- Points
- 16,260.73
Okay, I'll just throw in my two cents.
First of all Nanking Massacre - DID happen. Contrary to bias belief. In fact Japan committed a long list of war crimes that'd make Nanking look like a misdemeanor. And what Fuzileer said about the Nazis, don't forget in WWII Germany and Japan were allies. And their actions were every bit as brutal as the Nazis, they merely lacked the numbers.
Human Experimentation (Look up Unit 731)
Comfort Women (I.E. Forced Prostitution)
Cannibalism
Unnecessary Starvation
But with that said, no country is without blood on its hands. Our country has committed acts that I personally disapprove of during that same war. And you can hardly condemn the younger generations for what happened before they were born.
I don't believe it's fair or rational to judge an entire country and its people based on the actions of its government alone. A government that isn't even in practice anymore, granted because we forced them to change but still, it's not in practice.
And as for the Japanese people who hate foreigners, we have plenty of people like that here, they're everywhere. Hell, I'd be willing to bet that if I went to England, and was open about my nationality, people wouldn't take too kindly to me.
Not sure on what to say about the language, never really had a chance to try and learn it.Last edited by Your God; 6 Mar 2008 at 12:10 am.
Vestri Pygaum Nobis.
-
5 Mar 2008, 6:23 pm #13
- Join Date
- March 2007
- Location
- Ninja Camping
- Posts
- 492
- Points
- 4,773.62
Ha.
You suck.
This thread sucks.
Your quote sucks.
A joke? Fine.
But not here.Last edited by Wulf Dagov; 5 Mar 2008 at 6:28 pm.
"INSTANTANEOUS!!"
"Let your rapidity be that of the Wind, your compactness that of the Forest."
"In raiding and plundering be like Fire, be immovable like a Mountain."
-
5 Mar 2008, 8:32 pm #14
and youre on an anime forum.
badass nun......what more can you want?
-
5 Mar 2008, 8:45 pm #15
- Join Date
- March 2007
- Location
- Ninja Camping
- Posts
- 492
- Points
- 4,773.62
That too.
"INSTANTANEOUS!!"
"Let your rapidity be that of the Wind, your compactness that of the Forest."
"In raiding and plundering be like Fire, be immovable like a Mountain."
-
6 Mar 2008, 9:06 am #16
- Join Date
- March 2007
- Location
- Hamsterdam (Dubai)
- Posts
- 2,403
- Points
- 4,819.37
I still don't believe in the Nanking massacre, mainly because out of all the worse **** Japan did; everyone has chosen to sit around birching about this one for 35 years.
I know they did crap a lot worse than this, so it's just really off that they would choose this specific event to crap themselves over.
They did do stuff like line up.. ahh forget it. This is all SSF anyway.
-
9 Mar 2008, 12:30 am #17
- Join Date
- March 2006
- Location
- In your nightmares
- Posts
- 1,643
- Points
- 16,260.73
^ Simple yet undeniably true.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
You have a point there. But I don't think it was the US trying to justify their fight against Japan. We had all the justification we needed when they bombed Pearl Harbor.Vestri Pygaum Nobis.
-
6 Mar 2008, 10:16 am #18
Japan on the whole is not kind to foreigners, but that's more to do with the laws there and not the people, though there are certain groups of people there (like anywhere) that are racist.
I was born there, and when my parents died I was put into an orphanage where I was singled out due to being mixed race, and so I was moved to England. I went back to Japan (briefly) in December 2006, and was not treated badly at all.
They are a very xenophobic country on the whole though, and anyone who wants to live there should expect to have to put up with odd looks and being treated differently.Vote Hypnotoad...it\'s not like you have a choice
-
6 Mar 2008, 10:31 am #19
Moved to a more serious subforum, the SSF rules now apply to this thread!
-
7 Mar 2008, 8:48 am #20
- Join Date
- April 2006
- Location
- Amsterdam
- Posts
- 2,768
- Points
- 27,541.71
Though I admit that the character reading and all is really though (I can't do it) but in a small amount of time I've been able to learn a respectable amount of Japanese words and can have (very?) small talk with a Japanese person (even if my pronounciation is a bit off and not totally gramatically perfect). Heck I know more about Japanese grammer then of my own language or English (maybe even together).
I guess that, with seeing Asian, American, all kinds of European and English people at every corner of the street I don't look so odd against being the odd one out.
And of course there's their culture, there are certain things you just have to know (or would be really helpfull). Knowing how to adress different people is defenitly a must as with customs. The all known 'itadakimasu' before eating and those simple things show good manner when you do it, or mark you for anti social for not doing so (don't trust me on the anti social thing here ).
Thread Information
Users Browsing this Thread
There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)